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Luke 12: 22-34 Exegesis of the Greek

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TRANSLATION OF LUKE 12: 22-34

[Dug this out of my school archives, I graduated from seminary in 2010, so a lot is still, well, kinda fresh. Part of what we have to learn is Greek and Hebrew, Greek being the more complicated. We received an extensive amount of teaching in both languages. So I thought I’d publish this, unfortunately the actual “Greek” didn’t come out, if you see an odd word, it’s just a Greek word that didn’t “translate” from my paper into Word Press.]

James Driskell

July 18, 2007

 Luke 12:22 Ei=pen de. pro.j tou.j maqhta.j Îauvtou/Ð\ dia. tou/to le,gw u`mi/n\ mh. merimna/te th/| yuch/| ti, fa,ghte( mhde. tw/| sw,mati ti, evndu,shsqeÅ

He said to the disciples, on account of this I say to you, don’t be anxious, for life what to eat, not for your body or what you will wear.

merimna/te – be anxious, Present imperative active 2nd plural of merimna,w

 

fa,ghte – to eat, Aor subjunctive act 2nd plural evsqi,w  subjunctive is a negative command

evndu,shsqe –  to put on, clothe  Aorist subjunctive midd 2nd plur  evndu,w subjunctive is a negative command.

yuch/| – dative object of preposition

12:23 h` ga.r yuch. plei/o,n evstin th/j trofh/j kai. to. sw/ma tou/ evndu,matojÅ

For the soul is more than food and the body than clothing.

trofh/j – both are genitives, this is genitive absolute

evndu,matoj – both are genitives, this is genitive absolute

24 katanoh,sate tou.j ko,rakaj o[ti ouv spei,rousin ouvde. qeri,zousin( oi-j ouvk e;stin tamei/on ouvde. avpoqh,kh( kai. o` qeo.j tre,fei auvtou,j\ po,sw| ma/llon u`mei/j diafe,rete tw/n peteinw/nÅ

Observe the crows that do not sow and not reap who and have no storeroom or barn and God feeds them, how more greater are you than are the birds.

katanoh,sate – to observe aorist imperative active 2nd plural  of  katanoe,wspei,rousin – to sow Present indicative active 3rd plural of spei,rw

qeri,zousin – to reap Present indicative active 3rd plural qeri,zw

tre,fei – to feed Present indicative active 3rd plural  tre,fw

peteinw/n – genitive of worth

25 ti,j de. evx u`mw/n merimnw/n du,natai evpi. th.n h`liki,an auvtou/ prosqei/nai ph/cunÈ

Who out of you being anxious are able to add a single cubit to your life.

merimnw/n – to be anxious Present Participle active masc nominative singular  predicate causal

du,natai – to be able  Present Indicative Midd deponent 3rd sing du,namai

prosqei/nai – to add to aorist infinitive active   result  prosti,qhmi

26 eiv ou=n ouvde. evla,ciston du,nasqe( ti, peri. tw/n loipw/n merimna/teÈ

f then you are unable to do this lesser thing why are you concerned about other matters.

du,nasqe – to be able  Present Indicative Middle 2nd plur  du,namai

merimna/te – to be anxious Present Indic Act 2nd plur merimna,w

27 katanoh,sate ta. kri,na pw/j auvxa,nei\ ouv kopia/| ouvde. nh,qei\ le,gw de. u`mi/n( ouvde. Solomw.n evn pa,sh| th/| do,xh| auvtou/ perieba,leto w`j e]n tou,twnÅ

Observe the lilies how they grow they do not toil nor do they spin, I say to you not even Solomon in all his glory did not clothe himself like one of these.

Katanoh,sate – observe  aorist imperative active 2nd plur  katanoe,w

auvxa,nei – to grow  Pres Indic Act 3rd sing  auvxa,nw

kopia/| – to toil Pres Indic Act 3rd sing  kopia,w

nh,qei – to spin Pres Indic Act 3rd sing  nh,qw

perieba,leto – to clothe Aor indic midd 3rd sing  periba,llw

do,xh| – dative of respect

28 eiv de. evn avgrw/| to.n co,rton o;nta sh,meron kai. au;rion eivj kli,banon ballo,menon o` qeo.j ou[twj avmfie,zei( po,sw| ma/llon u`ma/j( ovligo,pistoiÅ

And if in a field God clothed the grass which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown in the fire, how much greater are you who are of little faith.

ballo,menon – thrown Pres participle passive masc accus sing  ba,llw  predicate causal

avmfie,zei – clothes Pres indicative act 3rd sing  avmfie,zw

29 kai. u`mei/j mh. zhtei/te ti, fa,ghte kai. ti, pi,hte kai. mh. metewri,zesqe\

And you do not seek what to eat and what to drink and do not be worried

zhtei/te – to seek pres imperative active 2nd plur zhte,w

fa,ghte – to eat Aorist subjunctive act 2nd plur  evsqi,w  purpose

pi,hte – to drink aorist subjunctive act 2nd plur pi,nw  purpose

metewri,zesqe – be worried present imperative passive 2nd plur metewri,zomai

30 tau/ta ga.r pa,nta ta. e;qnh tou/ ko,smou evpizhtou/sin( u`mw/n de. o` path.r oi=den o[ti crh,|zete tou,twnÅ

For all these things the nations of the world seek but your Father knows that you have need of.

evpizhtou/sin – to seek for, Pres Indic Act  3rd plur  evpizhte,w

oi=den – to know, Perf Indic Act 3rd sing  oi=da

crh,|zete – have need of Present Indic Act 2nd plur crh,|zw

ko,smou – genitive relationship

 31 plh.n zhtei/te th.n basilei,an auvtou/( kai. tau/ta prosteqh,setai u`mi/nÅ

But seek seek His Kingdom and these will be added to you.

zhtei/te – to seek Pres Imperative Act  2nd plur  zhte,w

prosteqh,setai – add to Fut Indic pass 3rd sing  prosti,qhmi

32 Mh. fobou/( to. mikro.n poi,mnion( o[ti euvdo,khsen o` path.r u`mw/n dou/nai u`mi/n th.n basilei,anÅ

Do not be afraid little flock because your Father thinks that it’s good to give you the kingdom.

fobou/ – fear Present Imperative Midd 2nd sing fobe,w

euvdo,khsen – to think it good  Aor indic act 3rd sing  euvdoke,w

dou/nai – to give  Aorist Infinit Act. di,dwmi purpose

33 Pwlh,sate ta. u`pa,rconta u`mw/n kai. do,te evlehmosu,nhn\ poih,sate e`autoi/j balla,ntia mh. palaiou,mena( qhsauro.n avne,kleipton evn toi/j ouvranoi/j( o[pou kle,pthj ouvk evggi,zei ouvde. sh.j diafqei,rei\

Sell your possessions (existence, to be) and give them as alms make yourselves purses that don’t wear out, in an unfailing storehouse in heaven where a thief cannot come near and a moth cannot destroy.

Pwlh,sate – to sell  Aor Imperative Act 2nd plur  pwle,w

do,te – to give  Aor Imperative Act 2nd plur  di,dwmi

poih,sate –  to make Aor Imperative Act 2nd plur  poie,w

palaiou,mena – be old, obsolete Pres Participle Act Neu Accus Plur  palaio,w  referent is balla,ntia predicate causal

evggi,zei – come near Pres Indic Act 3rd sing  evggi,zw

diafqei,rei – to destroy utterly, to corrupt, Pres Indic Act 3rd Sing  diafqei,rw

ouvranoi/j – dative direct object

34 o[pou ga,r evstin o` qhsauro.j u`mw/n( evkei/ kai. h` kardi,a u`mw/n e;staiÅ

For where your treasure is there your heart is.

verse 22 maqhta.j @auvtou/# {C}

In accordance with Lukan usage, a majority of the Committee preferred to adopt auvtou/, supported as it is by the overwhelming preponderance of external evidence, but to enclose it within square brackets in view of its absence from several important early witnesses (î45vid, 75 B).

From Textual Commentary on the New Testament Metzger

12:23 h` ga.r yuch. plei/o,n evstin th/j trofh/j kai. to. sw/ma tou/ evndu,matojÅ

On the surface, it may seem to be nothing more than another in a series of Jesus’ teachings about possessions, but Jesus connects the proper attitude toward possessions with the kingdom of God. This casts his teaching in an eschatological context. This passage is easily divided into three groups of imperatives surrounded by an introduction and conclusion.

This passage about possessions and the kingdom is catechesis specifically for the disciples (catechumens) and not for the crowds (12:22). The disciples here include the Twelve and the seventy (-two) as well as the larger group of followers for whom God is ‘Father’ (12:30, 32) and to whom the Father has given his kingdom (12:32)…”

“…Of these ten imperatives, eight have to do with material possessions (the two in 12: 29-30 deal with possessions in relation to the kingdom), and the remaining two are solely about the kingdom (12:31-32)…’Life’, Jesus says, ‘is more than food and body more than clothing” (12:23). Using two imperatives from the language of catechesis (12: 24, 27; katanoh,sate,, ‘consider’), Jesus instructs the disciples to study and ponder how God cares for the ravens and the lilies. He notes, ‘By how much are you more valuable than birds’ (12:24; similarly 12:28)”

“…Anxiety over possessions is a sign that one lacks faith. Jesus is so concerned about keeping faith strong that he reiterates his directive about food and clothing (‘do not seek what you will eat and what you will drink’) and employs a synonym of ‘worry’, which is the ‘catchword’ of this section: ‘Do not be upset’’ (12:29). The disciples are not to waver between hope and fear over ‘all these thing’ (12:30), for they they would be like the Gentiles, anxious about mere survival and indifferent to the kingdom… Did not Jesus teach the disciples in the Lord’s Prayer to petition the Father for the things that are truly necessary (11: 1-4) ? The real question here pertains to the disciples’ attitude: is what they ‘seek’ food and clothing or the kingdom of God? Jesus directs them with a strong command to ‘seek [the Father’s] kingdom, and all these things will be added to you’ (12:31). This may not always be obvious to them, and so in another command, this one intensely pastoral and appearing only in Luke, Jesus speaks as a shepherd to his sheep: ‘Do not fear, little flock, because your Father graciously willed to give to you the kingdom’ (12:32)…”

“…As Jesus’ ‘little flock,’ they need not fear, for they will be celebrants at the Table of the kingdom where God’s greatest gifts will be served through the Servant, who gives his body ‘on behalf of you’ and gives his blood in the cup of the new covenant (22:19-20). “

“Thus Jesus final imperatives to ‘sell [Pwlh,sate] your possessions and give [do,te]  alms’ (12:33) are simply ways in which the disciples/catechumens may show that they are servants of the one whose treasures are in the heavens, yet who also gives his flock the abundant treasures of the kingdom while they are journeying on earth…”

“…The treasure ‘brings for the good’ (6:45) of confessing Christ with the mouth. The next use of ‘treasure’ is in the parable of the rich fool where ‘the one who treasures for himself … is not rich toward God’ (12:21). Now in 12: 33-34, Jesus fills in the picture of that metaphor by describing the opposite of the treasure for oneself: it is heavenly treasure. In light of the parable of the rich fool, this section on possessions (12: 22-34) shows what it means to be ‘rich toward God’ (12:21)…To be rich toward God, then, is to be a recipient of Christ and his gifts, a member of his kingdom through catechesis, Baptism, and the Lord’s Supper… The two-fold Gospel message of this pericope (12:22-34) is this: For those seeking the treasure of the kingdom, the Father will provide adequate earthly treasure as well to sustain them in their journey from earth to heaven, and even more precious, along the way while still on earth ‘the little flock’ (12:32) will be graced with eternal heavenly treasures through Christ, the Shepherd who washes his flock in Baptism, feeds his sheep with the new Passover Lamb – his body and blood in the Supper (Lk 22: 14-20; 1 Cor 5:7) – and tends them with the guidance of his Word.”[1]

[1] Just, Arthur Concordia Commentary Luke 9:51 – 24:53 (St Louis, Concordia Publishing House, 1997) 509-512

Harrumph, carraspeo, Harrumph ¿qué estás haciendo? Primero Saint Johns 26 de abril 2015 Hechos 4

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Hacemos nuestro comienzo en el Nombre de Dios el Padre y en el nombre de Dios el Hijo y en el nombre de Dios el Espíritu Santo y todos los que conocen y aman el Buen Pastor dijo … AMEN!

[translation done on Google translate]

En una escena de una película de Mel Brooks, Sillas de montar calientes, Mel Brooks interpreta a un gobernador en lugar ADLE-cerebro. Se le pide que firme un proyecto de ley y dice “Debemos proteger nuestros falsa-baloney trabajos señores y comienza a harrumph y el resto de su séquito harrumphs con él. “Hey ese tipo de allá no Harrumph”, dice.

Me recuerda a la escena que tenemos aquí. Puede ser que sea un poco duro para etiquetarlos como falsos-baloneys, pero la escena que viene a mi mente es los saduceos y los guardias del templo que suben sobre Pedro y harrumphing. “Harrumph, Harrumph, ¿qué estás haciendo aquí? Espere un minuto que guardan allí no harrumph. ¿No le decimos a ustedes a salir de regate? Por lo menos poner una tapa en estas cosas Jesús y ahora aquí está predicando estas cosas a la derecha en el templo “Puedo escuchar al menos un guardia diciendo:”. Yo era muy agradables y cómodas, con una taza de café y una garra de oso, revisar mi teléfono inteligente y ahora tengo que saltar y hacer frente a estos tipos? “Nadie se va a cortar los discípulos cualquier holgura.

Recuerde que estos chicos, de los discípulos? Estos son los chicos que no podían huir lo suficientemente rápido cuando los guardias se presentaron para arrestar a Jesús. Grande, fuerte Pedro y él niega incluso conocer a Jesús a una muchacha judía. Hasta ahora se han estado escondiendo detrás de las puertas cerradas y las ventanas cerradas miedo a la muerte que los guardias del templo o soldados romanos van a arrastrar a la basura para ser crucificado. No estoy minimizando su miedo, tenían temores legítimos, en realidad no era nada como el debido proceso en Israel en el momento. Claro Pilato trató de defender a Jesús. Pero no era como Jesús, o ahora los discípulos, tenía algunos abogados inteligentes para evitar que sean castigados. Jesús se convirtió en una responsabilidad seria a Pilatos y Pilatos tuvo ningún reparo de lavarse las manos de la situación y enviar a Jesús para ser crucificado. Lo mismo se podría haber hecho fácilmente a los discípulos. No habría habido artículos de prensa condenando esto, las estaciones de televisión no habrían tenido la película de marchas para protestar por esto. Los discípulos serían azotados y fácilmente podría haber sido peor.

Entonces, ¿cuál era la diferencia aquí? ¿Cómo estos hombres van desde temblando de miedo en la oscuridad de los tigres, de pie en el lugar más público que podrían haber estado en Jerusalén? Por supuesto que estamos hablando, lo que fue probablemente el día después de Pentecostés que ahora están habitados por el Espíritu Santo. No hay duda de Pedro y los discípulos causaron algunos estragos el día anterior, y ahora han añadido 2.000 personas más a la multitud que tenían ayer. Ya esto tuvo que parar, carraspeo, Harrumph!

Hoy es Domingo del Buen Pastor. Esta vez ha tomado una especie de connation volantes, pero está destinado a ser un muy serio, muy vida o muerte significado. Usted puede confiar en Jesús y el hecho de que Él es el pastor fiel que da su vida por sus ovejas, y sigue en pie en guardia en un mundo muy peligroso espiritualmente. Tuvimos una gran charla sobre este en el Retiro de Hombres. Nosotros, los que vivimos en esta parte del país, los estadounidenses del siglo 21 más o menos hemos estado deje llevar vidas muy cómodas, afluentes. Está bien, así que lo que tenemos que ser protegidos de? Desde nuestra complacencia, de nuestra actitud de que lo tenemos todo en una bolsa de papel y no hay nada que nos amenaza! Como usted probablemente ha escuchado decir, Satanás no le importa cómo se pone su atención, siempre y cuando no sea Jesús. Si sólo puede adormecer el mundo en este volantes la, la mundo, un mundo en el que tenemos todo, así que no necesitamos a Jesús entonces él está feliz de vernos perdidos. Al parecer, el último episodio de Anatomía de Grey fue muy traumático para los aficionados. Uno de los hilos era este gran romance y la mujer se puso en la posición en la que tuvo que ver ya que tuvieron que dejar de tratar a su marido. Ella está sentada al lado de su inconsciente, muriendo marido diciéndole que está bien, todo estará bien. Cómo el mundo llega a esa conclusión me desconcierta, ¿cómo va a estar bien? La muerte es terrible trauma, un desgarrador horrible de la vida, algo que nunca fuimos hechos para aguantar hasta que el pecado entró en el mundo. No hay nada bien con la muerte y para los que no son salvos en Cristo, que han rechazado el plan de Dios y vivió como quieren, que significa la condenación eterna!

¿Qué tenemos que ser protegidos de, ¿qué hace el Buen Pastor nos libre de? Al estar calmado en la muerte con una falsa seguridad de que está bien, no lo es! Desde la guerra espiritual que pasa a nuestro alrededor que continúa buscando formas para dar vuelta de Jesús a todo y cualquier cosa, incluyendo la condenación eterna.

Jesús nos da su aseguramiento, Su promesa, Su amor genuino “Yo soy el Buen Pastor y pongo mi vida por las ovejas.” Su amor no es sólo para la comodidad y asegurar, sino para proteger, estar firmes contra el mal por todas partes nosotros que podemos superar y nos trague, mientras que pensamos que somos sanos y salvos en las cosas que hemos sido bendecidos con, pero el óxido y se destruyen, al final no hacen nada por nosotros, mientras que Jesús es eterno y todopoderoso . Estamos siempre tan dispuesto a negociar la eterna para el trivial.

Eso es lo que vemos en nuestros actos de lectura actual. Hay aquellos en el liderazgo judío que entienden que es Jesús, saben, que han visto todos los signos del Mesías. Pero al igual que Mel Brooks, carraspeo, carraspeo, soy grande e importante y esto es lo que es real hoy y voy a tratar con él cuando es conveniente para mí. Recuerda la parábola del hombre rico de Jesús? ¿Dónde estoy yendo para almacenar todos mis frutos y Dios viene a él y le dice: “¡Necio! Se requiere esta noche tu alma de ti, y las cosas que preparaste, ¿de quién será? Toda nuestra riqueza y la vida fácil no significará nada. Podemos ser tanto tigres Pentecostés y seguir la dirección del Espíritu Santo, que nos guía, y, como Pedro, levantamos ante aquellos que sólo quieren harrumph, o podemos ser agradable y complaciente. CS Lewis escribe en las Cartas diablo a su sobrino: “De hecho, el camino más seguro hacia el Infierno es la gradual uno – la suave pendiente, suave bajo los pies, sin giros bruscos, sin hitos, sin señales, ….” Podemos harrumph todo lo que queremos y siente que no es justo, o que debería ser hasta nosotros, pero esa opción no estaba disponible para los discípulos en Pentecostés y no es de los que pretenden ser discípulos de Jesús hoy. Sople el polvo de esas revistas, pregúntate a ti mismo y escribir acerca de si usted es del rebaño que pastores de Jesús o sólo Harrumph su camino por la vida?

La paz de Dios que sobrepasa todo entendimiento, guardará vuestros corazones y vuestros pensamientos en Cristo Jesús. Amin y Shalom

Harumph, Harumph what are you doing? First St Johns Acts 4 April 26, 2015

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[For the audio version please click on the above link]

We make our beginning in the Name of God the Father and in the Name of God the Son and in the Name of God the Holy Spirit and all those who know and love the Good Shepherd said  … AMEN!

In a scene from a Mel Brooks movie, Blazing Saddles, Mel Brooks plays a rather adle-brained governor. He is asked to sign a bill and he says “We must protect our phoney-baloney jobs gentlemen and he starts to harrumph and the rest of his entourage harrumphs with him. “Hey that guy over there didn’t harrumph” he says.

Reminds me of the scene we have here. It might be a little harsh to label them as phoney-baloneys, but the scene that comes to my mind is the Sadducees and temple guards coming up on Peter and harrumphing. “Harrumph, Harrumph, what are you guys doing here? Wait a minute that guard over there didn’t harrumph. Didn’t we tell you guys to get out of Dodge? At least put a lid on this Jesus stuff and now here you are preaching this stuff right on the temple.” I can hear at least one guard saying: “I was all nice and comfortable, having a cup of coffee and a bear claw, checking my smart phone and now I have to jump up and deal with these guys?” No one was going to cut the disciples any slack.

Remember these guys, the disciples? These are the guys who couldn’t run away fast enough when the guards showed up to arrest Jesus. Big, tough Peter and he denies even knowing Jesus to a little Jewish maid. Up until now they’ve been hiding behind locked doors and closed windows scared to death that the temple guards or Roman soldiers are going to drag them away to be crucified. I’m not minimizing their fear, they had legitimate fears, there really wasn’t anything like due process in Israel at the time. Sure Pilate did try to defend Jesus. But it wasn’t like Jesus, or now the disciples, had some smart lawyers to keep them from being punished. Jesus became a serious liability to Pilate and Pilate had no compunction of washing his hands of the situation and sending Jesus to be crucified. The same could have been easily done to the disciples. There wouldn’t have been any newspaper articles condemning this, the television stations wouldn’t have had film of marches to protest this. The disciples would be flogged and it easily could have been worse.

So what was the difference here? How did these men go from quivering with fear in dark to tigers, standing out in the most public spot they could have been at in Jerusalem? Of course we’re talking about, what was probably the Day after Pentecost they are now indwelt by the Holy Spirit. No doubt Peter and the disciples wreaked some havoc the day before, and now they’ve added 2,000 more people to the crowd they had yesterday. Ya this stuff had to stop, harrumph, harrumph!

Today is Good Shepherd Sunday. This has again taken on sort of a frilly connation, but it is intended to be a very serious, very life or death meaning. You can trust Jesus and the fact that He is the faithful Shepherd that lays down His life for His flock, and continues to stand on guard in a very spiritually dangerous world. We had a great talk about this at the Men’s Retreat. We who live in this part of the country, 21st century Americans have pretty much been lulled into very comfortable, affluent lives. Okay, so what do we have to be protected from? From our complacency, from our attitude that we’ve got it all in a brown paper bag and there’s nothing that threatens us! As you’ve probably heard me say, Satan doesn’t care how he gets your attention, so long as it’s not Jesus. If he can just lull the world into this frilly la, la world, a world where we have everything, so we don’t need Jesus then he’s happy to see us lost. Apparently the last episode of Grey’s Anatomy was very traumatic to fans. One of the threads was this great romance and the wife was put in the position where she had to watch as they had to stop treating her husband. She’s sitting next to her unconscious, dying husband telling him it’s ok, everything will be alright. How the world comes to that conclusion baffles me, how will it be alright? Death is terrible trauma, a horrible rending of life, something we were never meant to endure until sin came into the world. There is nothing alright with death and for those who are not saved in Christ, who have rejected God’s plan and lived how they want to, it means eternal condemnation!

What do we have to be protected from, what does the Good Shepherd save us from? Being lulled into death with a false assurance that it’s ok, it’s not! From the spiritual warfare that goes on around us that continues to look for ways to turn us from Jesus to anything and everything, including eternal damnation.

Jesus gives us His assurance, His promise, His genuine love “I am the Good Shepherd and I lay down my life for the flock.” His love is not only to comfort and assure, but to protect, to stand against the evil all around us that can overcome and swallow us up, while we think we are safe and sound in things that we are blessed with, but rust and are destroyed, in the end don’t do anything for us, while Jesus is eternal and all-powerful. We are always so ready to trade the eternal for the trivial.

That’s what we see in our Acts reading today. There are those in the Jewish leadership who understand who Jesus is, they know, they’ve seen all the signs of the Messiah. But like Mel Brooks, harrumph, harrumph, I’m big and important and this is what is real today and I will deal with it when it’s convenient for me. Remember Jesus’s parable of the Rich Man? Where am I going to store all my crops and God comes to him and says: “Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ All of our wealth and easy living won’t mean a thing. We can either be Pentecost tigers and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit who guides us, and, like Peter, get up before those who just want to harrumph, or we can be nice and complacent. CS Lewis writes in the Screwtape Letters: “Indeed the safest road to Hell is the gradual one–the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts,….” We can harrumph all we want and feel it isn’t fair, or it should be up to us but that option wasn’t available to the disciples at Pentecost and it’s not to those who claim to be Jesus’s disciples today. Blow the dust off those journals, ask yourself and write about whether you are of the flock that Jesus shepherds or do you just harrumph your way through life?

The peace of God which surpasses all understanding keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Amin and Shalom

Should the church cater to the consumer mentality?

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This is from Leadership Journal,      http://www.christianitytoday.com/parse/2015/april/dangers-of-consumer-church.html?paging=off

Dangers of Consumer Church

Can self-centeredness be leveraged for the gospel?/AUSTIN FISCHER

Dangers of Consumer Church

“We are unapologetically attractional. In our search for common ground with unchurched people, we’ve discovered that, like us, they are consumers. So we leverage their consumer instincts.”—Andy Stanley in Deep and Wide

“In order to help people follow Christ more fully, we would have to work against the very methods we were using to attract people to our church…we slowly began to realize that, to be faithful to the gospel of Jesus, consumerism was not a force to be harnessed but rather an anti-biblical value system that had to be prophetically challenged.”—Kent Carlson and Michael Lueken in Renovation of the Church

So which is it?

Are “consumer instincts” morally neutral (or at least morally inevitable) and thus fair game for being leveraged toward spiritual ends, or are they something the gospel intends to crucify?

Can a person’s innate self-orientation be used to introduce him to Jesus and to becoming less self-oriented and more God-oriented? Or is a person’s self-centered orientation the very problem that the gospel seeks to cure?

Wasn’t Jesus “attractional”?

Most of us want to believe the church’s relationship to consumerism is a both/and. I want to believe consumerism is simply an inevitable (and perhaps a bit less than ideal) reality that might as well be leveraged in the name of Jesus.

That seems to be Andy Stanley’s point and the conviction that shapes the way North Point practices church. There is something refreshing about Andy’s candor and you can sense the freedom this approach has afforded North Point—freedom from neurotic analysis and endless introspection; freedom that becomes energy to go and do church in a winsome way.

While Andy deserves kudos for even taking the time to defend the church’s relationship with consumerism in a culture where many pastors don’t think to bother, sometimes his rationale is problematic:

“When you read the Gospels, it’s hard to overlook the fact that Jesus attracted large crowds everywhere he went. He was constantly playing to the consumer instincts of his crowds. Let’s face it: It wasn’t the content of his messages that appealed to the masses. Most of the time they didn’t even understand what he was talking about … People flocked to Jesus because he fed them, healed them, comforted them, and promised them things.”

Was Jesus’ goal to attract a large crowd? We cannot ignore the fact that in John’s gospel, Jesus reprimands the large crowd that flocks to him for food and miracles (6:26-40), which sets in motion a chain of events that prompt Jesus to say some rather abrasive things about eating his flesh and drinking his blood, which causes the crowd to thin out considerably, leaving only the twelve and perhaps a few more (6:52-68). I don’t think this is Jesus appealing to the consumer instincts of his crowds.

Or there is the stark solemnity of Mark’s gospel, where Jesus hangs all alone, forsaken by every male disciple and glimpsed only by a few female disciples from a safe distance. Yes, at times there were large crowds, but Jesus’ ultimate goal seemed to be something else. In other words, in the Gospels a large crowd is not the unreservedly positive thing we often assume a large crowd to be. Indeed, large crowds are especially prone to miss the point.

I’m not sure the Gospels anywhere imply that Jesus desired to attract a large crowd. It seems Jesus desired to show and tell the truth about the kingdom of God while being absurdly hospitable to all manner of sinners and nobodies because that is what the kingdom is like. Nowhere do I find some sort of calculated exploitation of consumer instincts (“how attractive are we to our target audience?”).

If a large crowd showed up to hear and see the truth about the kingdom, great. If it didn’t, great. I don’t think it moved the needle for Jesus either way—certainly he didn’t feel obligated to get the crowd to return, or to grow the crowd even larger. Nor did his stomach sink at the sight of a small one. None of this is because he didn’t care about how many people entered the kingdom (Jesus certainly wants a full house at the wedding feast!), but because Jesus knew it mattered how you entered the kingdom.

Kent Carlson and Mike Lueken pastored a church that also believed we could and should exploit consumerism. But through a long and arduous process of examination, they changed their mind. They came to believe that the way we practice church forms us in ways that rival, and at times, preempt the things we say. We can tell people to practice self-denial, but when everything we do caters to their felt needs as consumers (from their placement in small groups, to their participation, or lack thereof, in worship), our practice contradicts the teaching. It’s no wonder so many well-meaning church goers find the call to a cruciform life utterly incoherent.

What do I mean by consumerism? I believe it’s best understood as an ideology that sees personal freedom as the highest human good, and that freedom is realized in a person’s ability to take and throw away, whatever, however, and whenever he/she wants (be it spouses, babies, genders, goods, ideas). In our culture, this is freedom, the highest good: “the perfect, unconstrained spontaneity of individual will is its own justification, its own highest standard, its own unquestioned truth.”

Mixed Messages

When we talk about leveraging “consumer instincts” in the way we practice church, we are taking the ideology of the market and the narrative of acquisitive freedom as the highest good and baptizing them. We are telling our people that their wants and felt needs need no further justification and need not be questioned. What is most important is not that they become like Jesus (unless of course they feel like it), but that they are free (and comfortable) to become whatever they want to become.

Of course we will do all of this while saying the exact opposite, encouraging people to follow Jesus, to be transformed into Christ’s likeness, to die to sin and walk in newness of life.

The unspoken assumption is that this is a no-obligation relationship. You can have a relationship with Jesus as long as you feel like it … and if not, that’s totally okay. Come and go as you wish.

Few of us consciously propagate the ideology of the free market to the detriment of the gospel. Our motives for exploiting consumerism are benign if not pious. We want as many people as possible at our churches because that means more people get a chance to meet Jesus and that is justification enough for leveraging consumerism. I can go down that road, so long as I don’t think about it too much.

So what does this mean for the way we do church? I have formed a core conviction as I sort through all of this: The primary goal of a church is to be a faithful expression of God’s kingdom.

I think the Anabaptist tradition is on to something here. The church’s deepest calling is to be the kingdom of God in the world; not to change the world, not to save the world, but to be a glimpse and partial embodiment of a different world: God’s world.

It seems to me the primary goal of many churches is to grow as large as possible while still being a faithful expression of church. I think the goal must be to be as faithful an expression of church as possible, while also seeking to grow as big as being a faithful expression of church allows. We do this by practicing radical hospitality, love, and forgiveness..

I think Jesus wants a full house, but I don’t think we have permission to make growing as big as possible our primary goal. If we aim at growing as big as possible—while still seeking, when possible, to be a faithful-ish expression of church—we inevitably lose our way.

Some may see this as splitting hairs, and perhaps it is. Consumerism obviously exists on a continuum. A church like North Point is, clearly, a beautiful expression of the kingdom. But a split hair can change trajectory, and trajectory, over time, can make all the difference in the world.

So which is it? Should the church make a habit of leveraging consumer instincts, or not?

I think “consumer instincts” can be a euphemism for the modern ideal of acquisitive freedom—an ideal the gospel has every intention of crucifying. I think consumerism, at its core, is rooted in taking, getting something for ourselves, while the gospel, at its core, is rooted in God’s grace to us in Christ, and our response of faith and hope and love. These are not always easy bedfellows.

So what am I suggesting? Go out of your way to make your church smaller (surely many churches don’t need any help with that)? Frustrate people with petty inconveniences (surely the standard truths of the gospel are inconvenient enough)? Reenact the early church’s policy of asking unbelievers to leave before serving the Eucharist? Stop serving good coffee? Use incompetent musicians?

No. What I’m am suggesting is that many of us have become far too obsessed with making people comfortable, far too fluent with the grammar of the market, far too timid in our practice of the most revolutionary phenomenon the world has ever seen: The Church.

Austin Fischer is the teaching pastor at Vista Community Church in Temple, Texas.

Mars Hill without the intellectual pretense

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This overnight radio show drove home how really unintellectual this country has become. This is especially ironic and tragic when you consider how much money is spent on “education”. People really aren’t educated today, they’re trained, indoctrinated and made competent, but assuredly not educated.

In respect to that we have the great enabler, the media, this particular show is such a graphic example. Call in with the most ludicrous subject, conspiracy theory, any kind of theory, so long as it’s not about Jesus, and he will tell anyone who calls that they are right about anything they submit. His attitude seems to be “they said it so it must be true, again so long as it’s not Jesus”. No matter how impossible it is to reconcile with reality or with anything else that’s been proposed on the show, that night or any other night in the years this show has been on. It’s on seven nights a week 365 days a year.

The regular host, at least, rarely questions anyone and when he does it’s in the sense of “well ok, if you say so”. So many of the callers are almost obviously delusional, even over the phone/over the radio it’s pretty apparent. The paranoid and obviously delusional, and others suffering from an apparent mental disorder call into this show and just throw it right out there and no one questions them in the least. There is a constant stream of guests who go on, often for hours, spouting their latest theories, conspiracies and/or coverups. They label something a coverup, no matter how obvious or implausible and the host will give you a microphone and an audience.

Isnt this really how society is today? Anything/everything is possible, label anything/anyone you want with some kind of conspiracy, some kind of a conspirator and this host will let you rant on so long as it’s politically correct (although he will let some right wing fanatics and/or religious nut ramble on just to show they’re obviously somehow paranoid or delusional). The rest he just let’s go on their merry way, pats them on their head, tells them how obviously right they are, while making no effort to try and reconcile this ones story with the one from the day before. There must be UFOs, they must be a part of a government plot or coverup.

One could certainly make the case that this is a modern day “Mars Hill”, but while the people there were some kind of intellectuals, there is no pretense of any kind of intellectual at all in contemporary society. Frankly I submit if anything it’s anti-intellectual. We will tell you what the truth is (or that there really isn’t any truth) and you just need to fall in line. You get all these people who tell you they don’t need an education, because they know all they need to know. I’ve learned all I need, when they can’t demonstrate that they’ve done anything to learn anything. I’ve seen more than a few of these types.  No education to speak of, no real life experience, no personal study, it’s obvious that anything they know is very superficial. But that doesn’t stop them. They have somehow absorbed the information, some form of osmosis, and everyone should follow them and believe everything they say.

You certainly see this in big-box churches. No real background, but let’s put on a good show, say the right words (although they fill those words with ideas that don’t at all match their biblical use or any other genuine Christian doctrine).

There is ridiculous anti-intellectualism in this country. All you need is a superficial, if any, understanding on a subject and you can just pontificate away and expect everyone to unquestionably accept and act on what you say. Ya, that’s how Jim Jones, Charlie Manson, Joseph Smith, on and on, with no real understanding of reality, just blah-blah-blah, now go do it.

We also have the uncritical, anti-intellectual like this radio host perpetuating this. The creed being, just be an enabler, don’t challenge, don’t question, don’t rebuke. Nah, I just want to be liked, be successful, make money, and then? Well we will deal with that then, but hey I’ve been a good person.

That is why we want people to grow in their faith, to be good disciples and disciplers. That is why we cannot tolerate those churches that just make Christianity a form of entertainment. Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life”. We have to live that, lead that, teach that and not give in to the silly babbling. We cannot concede souls to those who have no scruples except to make money and try to distract people from the truth in Christ. Satan really doesn’t care what you believe so long as it’s not Jesus.

Alégrate? ¡Sí! Pero ¿para qué? Zacarías 9: 9-12 First St Johns 29 de marzo 2015

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Hacemos nuestro comienzo en el Nombre de Dios el Padre y en el nombre de Dios el Hijo y en el nombre de Dios el Espíritu Santo y todos los que se gozan en nuestro Salvador Jesucristo y su sacrificio dijimos … AMEN!

Una radio local muestran a un hombre estaba diciendo que él estaba en el tráfico alrededor de DC y que sólo había bloqueado el carril que estaba en y tuvo que superar. Él bajó la ventanilla y le rogó a una mujer para dejarlo entrar. Él dice que ella sólo le permitió tenerlo, todo en blanco, en blanco, en blanco, lo que pensaba de él y de su madre, etc. él consiguió en el carril de al lado y terminaron por delante de ella y que iban en una cabina de peaje. Se levanta a la caseta de cobro y sigue adelante y paga su peaje.

Sí hoy es Domingo de Ramos, es la entrada triunfal de Jesús en Jerusalén. También tenemos que recordar que hoy es Domingo de Pasión también. Sí, Jesús fue recibido en Jerusalén, sin duda, los discípulos estaban convencidos de que se trataba de ella, que Jesús finalmente iba a hacer su movimiento y restaurar el reino y que estaría en su mano izquierda y su fallo mano derecha sobre el nuevo davídico Unido. No tenían idea alguna de cómo sería realmente a suceder. La semana comenzó en señal de triunfo, pero terminaría en lo que probablemente pensaron en ese momento era un desastre. No iba a haber ningún vítores, no había nadie “hosannaing”, capas no se están colocando delante de Él. En cambio, Él fue arrastrado por todo un ensayo la noche, comenzó la golpiza, no tenía sueño, ni comida, ni agua, arrojado a una celda, golpeado de nuevo. Al día siguiente, Él sería azotado, tortura insoportable, obligado a arrastrar una cruz de madera en bruto a través de las calles de Jerusalén, siendo abucheado y acosado. Por último clavado en una cruz, colgante izquierda, sin piedad, sufriendo en frente de toda esta gente que le había sido animando hace una semana. En lugar de aplaudir que estaban burlándose, que se burlaban de él, sólo podemos imaginar lo que otra persona tome su angustia en la cruz aún más miserable.

El hombre en el coche podría haber ahuyentado, corte la mujer fuera, ha sido un imbécil demasiado. No lo hizo, él mostró a esta mujer la gracia, sin duda, cuando condujo lejos de la estación de peaje sintió la satisfacción de que lo hizo mostrar su gracia. No puedo decir que estoy tan graciosa como eso, y sé que debo ser. Después de que Jesús había sido tratado tan vilmente, tenía todas las razones para simplemente proceder a lo largo. ¿Por qué habría que hacer nada para salvar a estos miserables pecadores que lo trataron tan asquerosamente? ¿Quién podría culparlo si decía “Que aquellos miserables pecadores pudren, ¿por qué debería hacer otra cosa para ellos? Él podría tener sólo expulsa, y dejar que nos ocupamos de nuestro propio destino, el destino que los que no están en Jesús todos enfrentamos. Una vida sin Cristo y una eternidad de sufrimiento, de la separación de Dios, de tormento.

Jesús no nos dejó a nuestra suerte. Dios había decidido a principios de la Biblia para dejar a las personas para hacer frente a los resultados de su comportamiento enfermizo, pecaminoso. Él sacó el tapón en el mundo, que se encuentra el único hombre justo y le dijo a Noé que construyera un arca y salvar a la creación de un nuevo comienzo. Él decidió pisar sobre Sodoma y Gomorra por su pecado atroz, diciéndole a Lot y su familia para salir de Dodge.

Pero ese no era el plan de ir hacia adelante, que no era como Jesús, Dios Hijo, y Dios el Padre y Dios el Espíritu Santo decidieron dejar las cosas. Ellos nos ahorrarían, por el sacrificio del Hijo de Dios. Iba a ser el pago por todos nuestros pecados. Él no va a destruir el mundo otra vez hasta que decide poner fin a tiempo en este mundo. Él nos dio una manera de ser salvo, Él pagó el peaje en su camino a través y no sólo eso, pero luego regresó. Viernes Fue tratado vergonzosamente, el domingo se sobrepuso a nuestro mayor enemigo, no la suya, Dios Hijo, no morirá jamás, pero lo haremos. Jesús venció a la muerte, a fin de que vivamos y no la vida tal y como la conocemos aquí, o la vida en un estado espiritual en el cielo. Jesús fue resucitado el domingo después del Viernes Santo no realizar algún truco de magia, no sólo para nosotros que podía mostrar, que puesto que Él es todopoderoso Él puede vencer a la muerte, sino como una poderosa promesa a nosotros que tenemos la esperanza en Él que también nosotros resucitaremos en nuestros cuerpos perfectos, para vivir en un mundo perfecto donde Él había tenido la intención siempre para nosotros tener esa vida perfecta.

Ahora que entramos en la Semana Santa, tenemos que tomarlo como un compuesto y no recordar sólo la entrada triunfal, pero cómo eso va a jugar fuera, para que él sea abusada por hombres pecadores, y que estamos bien servidos para recordar que somos pecadores sólo les gustaría. Analizando el verso 42 en nuestra lectura del Evangelio, que hay muchos que se olvide a Jesús hoy, algunos incluso aquí, muchos de los que nos encontramos fuera de esta iglesia: “Sin embargo, muchos, aun de los gobernantes, creyeron en él, pero por miedo a los fariseos que no confesaban, por lo que no iban a ser expulsados ​​de la sinagoga. “No se puede estar a mitad de camino de Jesús, no se puede” creer “y aún así continuar en el mundo. O eres un niño confeso de Cristo aquí y ahora o se pierde. El mundo no puede ahorrar, el mundo está condenado a la destrucción. No podemos poner nuestra agenda en Jesús y esperar que Él está allí para nuestra conveniencia y nuestros planes. Somos suyos, Él es nuestro Señor, Él es nuestro Salvador, Él es nuestro Dios resucitado. Si Él no es el Señor de nuestra vida en el mundo, no será el Señor de nuestra resurrección. Él nos va a dejar a nuestros propios planes y que sólo puede dar lugar a la condenación eterna.

Domingo de Ramos / Domingo de Pasión, Semana Santa son un compuesto de nuestro viaje de la vida, tenemos que verlo en términos de cómo las multitudes lo vitorearon el domingo porque le espera para llevar a cabo su agenda y cómo se volvió hacia él el viernes. Martin Franzman establece Semana Santa muy deliberadamente a nosotros: “La señal de la resurrección de Lázaro ha hecho a Jesús un hombre de nota, buscada por los peregrinos de la Pascua en Jerusalén (john11: 55-57); Unción de María de Él es una muestra de la devoción Él ha inspirado en los suyos (Juan 12: 1-8); una multitud aclama el Rey de Israel en su entrada en Jerusalén (Juan 12: 9-19) prosélitos griegos presentes en la Pascua buscarlo fuera (Juan 12: 20-22), incluso entre las autoridades son muchos los que creen en Él, aunque que no pueden encontrar el valor para Él (Juan 12: 42-43) confesar. Pero a Israel como un todo la Palabra se ha hablado en vano: Judas, uno de los Doce se le entregase … Ha llegado la hora para que el Hijo del hombre sea glorificado (Juan 12:23) ”

Vemos el mundo glorificar a Jesús porque piensan que Él ha venido para llevar a cabo su visión del mundo, a los que creen, pero quiere ver su agenda llevada a cabo y luego firmará con Jesús, el equipo ganador. Pero Jesús sabe claramente cómo esto va a terminar y él también sabe por qué y es totalmente contrario a lo que todo el mundo alrededor de Él quiere: “Ha llegado la hora para que el Hijo del hombre sea glorificado (23) La semilla debe caer en el suelo y morir antes de que pueda dar mucho fruto – vida por el mundo es ganado por la muerte “(Juan 12: 23-26) Creemos que sabemos lo que es mejor, pero a los ojos de Dios no tenemos ni idea. Hemos nacido en este mundo como pecadores, hemos sido llevados a Cristo, a través de su iglesia, para ser bautizado, ser hecho Sus hijos. Tomamos su cuerpo y sangre, escuchamos la Palabra predicada de su Palabra y vivimos nuestras vidas en la iglesia para ser salvo por lo que Él ha hecho por nosotros y para ser dado vida nueva y perfecta en la resurrección. Nuestro amigo mostró gracia en el peaje a la mujer que lo trató tan groseramente, nuestro amigo Jesús, nuestro poderoso Señor y Salvador nos mostró mucho más la gracia, en Su muerte para el perdón de nuestros pecados y Su resurrección de la promesa de eterna verdadera vida en el mundo perfecto para venir.

Nolan Astley escribe: “En nuestro mundo post-9/11, se habla mucho acerca de héroes y víctimas. Héroes se retratan a menudo como individuos totalmente desinteresados ​​que voluntariamente se lanzan en el camino del peligro para salvar a otros. Las víctimas son a menudo retratados como personas inocentes que no hicieron nada para merecer la tragedia que ha venido sobre ellos. Si bien existe un cierto nivel de verdad en esas representaciones, la Palabra de Dios nos dice algo diferente. Todos nos quedamos cortos de la gloria de Dios; héroes de este mundo y de las víctimas de este mundo son todos los pecadores “.

“El héroe y víctima no son tan distintos. El Domingo de Ramos, nos centramos en el único y verdadero héroe. Jesús es el verdadero héroe porque él desinteresadamente monta en Jerusalén para convertirse en la víctima. Ni los esfuerzos heroicos de nuestra vida ni la inocencia de nuestras vidas nos hace dignos de su amor. Nuestra salvación viene sólo de los Justos Rey, que viene a vencer el pecado y la muerte (Zacarías 9: 9). Él es nuestro héroe porque él es la víctima! ”

La paz de Dios que sobrepasa todo entendimiento, guardará vuestros corazones y vuestros pensamientos en Cristo Jesús. Amin y Shalom

True disciples in Jesus, not phoney expectations

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This is from Henry and Richard Blackaby’s Experiencing God Day by Day p 142: “James and John sought to outmaneuver their fellow disciples in order to gain the places of greater honor next to Jesus (Mark 10:37). Over and over the disciples’ actions showed that they did not truly understand who Jesus was (John 6:7-9; Mark 6:49). Even after three years with Jesus, Peter was afraid to confess Christ before a young servant girl (Matt 26:69-75).

Yea these guy’s definitely failed, but I respectfully disagree being in Jesus does not mean that we all of a sudden become lions for Jesus. As a Lutheran we certainly know that we become a new creation in Jesus. Baptism makes us a new man or woman, we have been born again in the Spirit a new creature. We absolutely do. But Martin Luther always cautioned that the old/worldly person would always be lurking waiting for the chance to jump in and assert itself.

When it’s not about Jesus it’s about me. I have no doubt that the ratio is well over fifty percent weighted to me. Sure they became new men on the day of Pentecost and we praise God for that. We do become spiritual beings in Jesus and the Holy Spirit does keep working on us.  I pray that we do respond to Him when we are called on, that we are raised up far more than we fail.  But the beef I have with Reformed theology falls in to works righteousness theology, that we have to become virtually perfect. This side of heaven we aren’t going to be perfect or even too close. I’ve talked to too many people who have given up, have despaired because some uneducated, self-proclaimed “evangelist”, who doesn’t know what he/she is talking about and makes it up. Who genuinely thinks he/she has reached some state of perfection and thinks everyone else should be. They just don’t know what they’re talking about. The Blackabys certainly are much better educated than me, but all Reformed theology still breaks down in this works righteousness and creates an environment where too many give up because they can’t reach an impossible goal of perfection.

I’m not saying give up and don’t strive. Christians should always be striving for Jesus. But don’t get sucked into this idea that you’re going to be perfect and have it all together. Too many have been spit out the “big box” church because of faulty teaching and faulty people. These are the kinds of Jim Jones/cult kind of thinking that causes serious spiritual dysfunction. The fastest way to truly die is to let your spiritual life be undermined.

Look at ISIS, all the places where Christians are truly persecuted and truly living for Christ. They don’t have the time and resources for big box Christianity, the Joel Osteen, Mark Driscoll, nonsense. We have brothers and sisters in Africa, Asia who have and continue to suffer persecution. While people sit in their non-denominational big boxes being amused and convinced they’re perfect just by virtue of being them, the denominational churches, the ones who live the life and put it on the line are out there truly serving. I wonder when non-denominational churches are going to be sending military chaplains who are right on the front line. Who are going to do the work of Lutheran World Missions, for those who sit in pretty sanctuaries, world pleasing sanctuaries.

The big box phoney churches can try to sell that you need to be perfect, but for those who are living the life by actually serving, who are suffering, who know the real world of Christianity, we aren’t perfect. Dr Luther knew the old man, and I certainly have never known a Christian more real than Martin Luther. We need to quit creating phoney expectations that are not Biblical and are only in the head of some self-important big box player to the crowd. Let’s stand up as true brothers and sisters in Jesus accept that we and those around us are fallible and go out and really live the life in Jesus. Let’s not set people up for failure which the big box churches are doing.

It’s about God and brothers and sisters in Jesus, it’s not about you

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I was listening to J Vernon McGee while I was reading this devotional by Henry Blackaby and I noticed how the common thread was “it’s not about you” or me, it’s about God!

Dr McGee was answering the tire old nonsense “a loving God wouldn’t send anyone to hell.” I really wish people would think a little more and quit with the simple little cliches. People love to say how much smarter they are than everyone before or now. It’s not true. Dr McGee points out that God is loving. He is also righteous, just and holy.  He has given us a way to be saved unlike any other belief system, but it has to be on the basis of salvation in His Son. But in our day and age when we think it’s all about us, we think God is supposed to take whatever we offer Him. No! It’s not your way it’s God’s way.

We are holy in Jesus.  In Jesus we are in the presence of the Lord, God is holy. That means set apart, sanctified. He will not accept anything less, His nature abhors anything less. The “ONLY” way we can be holy is through God the Son. There is no other way. Jesus said “no one comes to the Father except through Me.”

Dr Blackabys devotional was on how what we do and don’t do affects other Christians. We should act only after we consider how our actions will affect other Christians. When we sin “Sin promotes independence. It isolates you from others… God designed you for interdepenence.”

We do have responsibility to our brothers and sisters in Jesus. But that does raise the question in terms of those who aren’t in Jesus. The Acts church was solely focused on only supporting fellow Christians. The church I pastor does reach out to help, but frankly there’s only so much we can do and we have a responsibility to help brothers and sisters. I think we should be very discerning in who we help because we just do not have the resources. The church at all levels does so much with so little for so many and yet the average secularist (who statistically) does very little for anyone else still likes to wag their finger at the church. Yes those same people who love to say how non-judgmental they are.

The take away is this.  It’s just not about you. If you really don’t understand what God is about, you better not go around making statements about what God will or won’t do. I mean come on that’s just stupid. God gave His Son for our salvation we are saved in Him or we condemn ourselves.

We need to remember when we sin, it’s not just about us. Our sin reflects on and affects countless numbers of other Christians. And we should be in service, but primarily to brothers and sisters in Jesus. We are guided by the Holy Spirit to help others but we are focused on serving those who are in Jesus.

Dr J Vernon McGee weekly question and answer podcast for March 14, 2015

“experiencing God Day by Day Henry and Richard Blackaby  p 130

Discipling means to confront and challenge, not to shrug you shoulders and say “whatever”.

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On a personal note, I reached 5,000 views. I know that to many of you that’s kind of chump change, but I jumped that hurdle and want to mark it in this blog.

Now that I’m over that, I really want to do this blog, but I need to do a disclaimer, this is almost verbatim from a podcast (Insight for Living Feb 11, 2015), but it’s so good, and frankly something I’ve been wrestling with and that we really need to apply in all our lives. So you should buy Swindoll books, listen to the broadcasts, but in the meantime, I’m going to put it out there and I pray that you take it to heart.

“…there is  no where in the Bible that says “live and let live'” [or let die for that matter] or “whatever” or “you leave me alone, I’ll leave you alone”. Jesus never promoted that message. No one ever loved like His love, he never just shrugged his shoulders when one of His disciples was moving in the wrong direction. He confronted it. Why would he confront it? Why would confrontation be that essential? It proves that we love someone. Because we love someone we care for them, about them. We care about their welfare. Because we care there are times when we must say how much we care and occasionally it’s a confrontation.”

[Samuel confronts David about Bathsheba. A lot of people were affected by this, so please don’t give me that lame “victimless crimes, or actions”, that’s the biggest copout ever. There is just no such thing. There are always other people who suffer as the result of sexual misconduct, drug abuse, divorce, and just because it’s not a crime, does not mean that misconduct doesn’t hurt/affect others. In David’s case his children and wives were profoundly affected, at the time and later. The baby conceived by David and Bathsheba died. Certainly Uriah was affected. There were many people, David’s subjects, who were directly affected by the events of just this one occurrence of sexual misconduct and were caught up in the consequences – mine]

“Good physicians confront their patients when they’re involved in unhealthy habits, we expect them to. Good coaches confront sloppiness, laziness. Parents confront misbehaving kids [well they should-mine]. Bad attitudes need to be confronted.

Our best friends, in the best way, confronting us over our bad ways.

It’s not about control or trying to be smarter, it’s about seeing someone you care about harming themselves and, usually, causing harm to others. Confrontation ought to be with tears, never with pride, never with joy. Your heart is broken and because it’s broken you have to say something, especially because you care about that individual. Confrontation is love in action, caring about another’s welfare, helping someone realize they’re headed for trouble or danger if nothing changes and the proof of your love is that you will not look the other way. It’s not for control.”

[I have no interest in controlling, or unless necessary, knowing. I really don’t. That is just not what I’m about or most pastors are. We are about the Gospel and helping people to move on from their issues. We all have issues. But a big part of the job and expectations of others is that we have to help people confront and overcome. Like it or not, it will be through the power of the Holy Spirit, but there are times that are just so profoundly difficult that we need help to overcome them in order to refocus on Jesus. That’s what pastors are for. As a Lutheran pastor, anything you discuss with me is under the “seal of the confessional”, I cannot even discuss that I talked to you. Whatever anyone tells me, they have full confidence that it will not be discussed in any other context. Once that discussion is over, I do not treat you or act any differently to you. This is confrontation also, you are bringing me your issues and trusting me that I’m there to confide in, to confess and repent and to be absolved. I don’t really want to get into it, but I do want to serve you and help you to deal with it. But wow, what would the world look like if we were all trying to reach our greatest potential in Jesus, instead of “gimme, gimme, I want”? Let’s deal with the issue of confronting and not just sitting back and letting others suffer in sin or as a consequence of sin. And we can certainly tell when someone is confronting us in love versus when they’re trying to control us- mine]

“The difference in confronting someone because they need to hear it and trying to control someone to become like you, should be a gentle experience, not shameful. Some day you might fall to the same sin. Proverbs 27:6 “Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses.” The Hebrew says faithful are the bruises. Proverbs 20:30 “Blows and wounds scrub away evil, and beatings purge the inmost being.'” 

“…God loves too much to let them get away with doing such things [or how about the one who says “heck with you”, goes off does what they want, gets in trouble and come back expecting you to help. Not asking or looking for forgiveness.Their attitude usually being that somehow it was your fault, I might have gone out and done something stupid, but you have to fix it. But we do need to remember that our goal for them and us, is that we become more like Christ, not to squeeze them into our mold. But yes there will be consequences, and maybe I don’t want to suffer actual or vicarious consequences with you? -mine]

“What is necessary is lots of prayer, waiting for the right time and speaking the truth in love. Ephesians 4:15: “ Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.'”

If you can do it without tears then you probably ought not to do it. If it’s painful for you realizing the wrong that’s going on and others are being or will soon be harmed. Sometimes a pastor who needs to be confronted, whose conduct would damage the Body of Christ. Love must often do the unpleasant. Remember a moment of confrontation, how painful it was. The goal of confrontation is restoration, not condemnation [as is ex-communication, the keys Jesus gave the church.-mine] It is help to get the person back on track so their lives will count for Christ.”

“We don’t go into confrontation to ‘set somebody straight”. You go in with fear and trembling and you’re going to use God’s words on a delicate, but sinful issue. King David as the example; leader, warrior, poet, musician, [He wrote most of the Psalms]. He had a way of winning your heart. But he also understood that he had to be confronted over his sin.